Comments on: Can I Date A Jewish Woman If I’m Not Properly Jewish? http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/07/can-i-date-a-jewish-woman-if-i%e2%80%99m-not-properly-jewish/ Where celebrities, experts and JDaters come to kibitz! Thu, 23 May 2013 13:53:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.1 By: Joysa Winter http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/07/can-i-date-a-jewish-woman-if-i%e2%80%99m-not-properly-jewish/comment-page-1/#comment-98111 Joysa Winter Sat, 29 Dec 2012 10:55:45 +0000 http://www.jdate.com/jmag/?p=76601#comment-98111 Both the Reform and Reconstruction movements have accepted patrilineal descent as a legitimate way to determine Jewishisness for well over three degrees. Together, these movements represent the largest number of Jewry in the United States and around the world. In addition, lesser movements such as the Jewish Secular Humanist Society and the Jewish Renewal Movement also acknowledge patrilineal descent. The Reform and Recon movements arrived at their decisions through long multi-year processes of examining the legal traditions (and why they developed.) In other words, their conclusions were the result of deep study and deep soul-sourching into our history, and where we, as a people, exist today. My advocating bi-lineal descent is not merely "my opinon." It is the opinion advocated by the majority Jewish organizations around the world. ~ Joysa Both the Reform and Reconstruction movements have accepted patrilineal descent as a legitimate way to determine Jewishisness for well over three degrees. Together, these movements represent the largest number of Jewry in the United States and around the world. In addition, lesser movements such as the Jewish Secular Humanist Society and the Jewish Renewal Movement also acknowledge patrilineal descent.

The Reform and Recon movements arrived at their decisions through long multi-year processes of examining the legal traditions (and why they developed.) In other words, their conclusions were the result of deep study and deep soul-sourching into our history, and where we, as a people, exist today. My advocating bi-lineal descent is not merely “my opinon.” It is the opinion advocated by the majority Jewish organizations around the world.
~ Joysa

]]> By: bill http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/07/can-i-date-a-jewish-woman-if-i%e2%80%99m-not-properly-jewish/comment-page-1/#comment-50021 bill Tue, 07 Aug 2012 00:55:46 +0000 http://www.jdate.com/jmag/?p=76601#comment-50021 Very clearly judaism is by the mother. You jumble ideas and history quite flippantly and have little Torah knowledge. Your answer is purely secular and should not be considered chalackic and there fore not an answer rooted in law and tradition. Its your personal answer. Very clearly judaism is by the mother. You jumble ideas and history quite flippantly and have little Torah knowledge. Your answer is purely secular and should not be considered chalackic and there fore not an answer rooted in law and tradition. Its your personal answer.

]]> By: bee http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/07/can-i-date-a-jewish-woman-if-i%e2%80%99m-not-properly-jewish/comment-page-1/#comment-49051 bee Fri, 03 Aug 2012 03:36:17 +0000 http://www.jdate.com/jmag/?p=76601#comment-49051 Yes, there used to be a lot of conversion to Judaism. However, this window of conversion closed about 1000 years ago, and since then Jews have become one of the most homogeneous ethnic groups out there. So conversions to Judaism 2000 years ago don't have relevance to that. (For example, most of what we consider "ethnic groups" today did not even exist 2000 years ago!). Yes, there used to be a lot of conversion to Judaism.

However, this window of conversion closed about 1000 years ago, and since then Jews have become one of the most homogeneous ethnic groups out there. So conversions to Judaism 2000 years ago don’t have relevance to that.

(For example, most of what we consider “ethnic groups” today did not even exist 2000 years ago!).

]]> By: Mike http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/07/can-i-date-a-jewish-woman-if-i%e2%80%99m-not-properly-jewish/comment-page-1/#comment-48771 Mike Wed, 01 Aug 2012 20:42:06 +0000 http://www.jdate.com/jmag/?p=76601#comment-48771 Joysa Winter, Your answer shows that you do NOT have a clue about Jewish dissident or conversion! Cults that call themselves Jews are still cults! A chicken may call himself a lion but he is still a chicken. It has always been that a Jew is Jewish if mother is Jewish and if male is Circumcised, or if proper conversion! You may delude yourself and con others but Judaism does not change due to modern thoughts! Mike Joysa Winter,

Your answer shows that you do NOT have a clue about Jewish dissident or conversion! Cults that call themselves Jews are still cults! A chicken may call himself a lion but he is still a chicken. It has always been that a Jew is Jewish if mother is Jewish and if male is Circumcised, or if proper conversion! You may delude yourself and con others but Judaism does not change due to modern thoughts!

Mike

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