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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/08/do-i-have-to-use-my-real-age/comment-page-1/#comment-61931</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Elaina, nothing and nobody could get me to leave Israel. He is free to convert. However, since he&#039;s currently trying to crawl back to his ex, this is no longer my problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Elaina, nothing and nobody could get me to leave Israel. He is free to convert. However, since he&#8217;s currently trying to crawl back to his ex, this is no longer my problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2012 22:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna,

Are there any other countries you and/or he could live in and feel more accepted?  I think the US is more strict now about immigration but what about Canada or Australia or New Zealand?  I think i&#039;ve heard of people who wanted to immigrate moving there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna,</p>
<p>Are there any other countries you and/or he could live in and feel more accepted?  I think the US is more strict now about immigration but what about Canada or Australia or New Zealand?  I think i&#8217;ve heard of people who wanted to immigrate moving there.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
		<link>http://www.jdate.com/jmag/2012/08/do-i-have-to-use-my-real-age/comment-page-1/#comment-60701</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2012 19:36:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elaina, 

I know and understand why he would lie. Being born a Muslim Arab (or any kind of non-Jewish Arab - or even being Jewish and looking Arab!) isn&#039;t easy in Israel. I love my country, I am a Zionist, but I cannot pretend not to see the bigotry and bias against Arabs. I can understand it since it&#039;s Arabs who bomb us, but many good Arabs suffer as a consequence. 
Being sexually involved with a Muslim may lead to honor killings even here in this otherwise civilized country. The bias Jews have against Arabs is endless; I have yet to see a dark to black person with no university background in a job better than security or police. Arabs, especially Muslims, face lots of rejection - on the job market, in real estate, but also in interpersonal relationships. Most of my Jewish friends, even the leftist ones, gasp in disbelief when I tell them my father knows I slept with a Muslim and laughs about it. &quot;Mine would cleave my head off!&quot; is a frequent response.

This wonderful young man almost died defending Israel. He knows all the Jewish blessings and prayers, and observes our holidays. He hates Islam more than anything. He works himself to death to support his family and he is sweet and caring and his Facebook friendlist is largely populated by homosexuals. He tries so hard, yet still doesn&#039;t belong, he said so often and it really gets him down. Adopting a fake Jewish identity brings him closer to being part of this society. And yes, he is willing to convert for the right woman; he offered it to his previous partner who however, didn&#039;t really want to take their relationship to such a serious level. 
I know how important belonging can be. I&#039;m born in Israel but grew up abroad where I had many psychological problems, all starting with my not feeling like a part of anything and hence, not finding who I was. You&#039;re floating through the world in a bubble you don&#039;t want to be in. Everything is &quot;You and them&quot;, not &quot;You among them&quot;. But he has no native country to simply return and belong to. He&#039;s already in it, yet still doesn&#039;t belong. In his Arab village - Druze, Bedouins, Muslims - people beat him up for acting like neither of the 3. 

So I think that while yes, he lies to deceive others into accepting him, he also uses this &quot;pretend play&quot; to be as close as possibly to what he truly wants. Been there, done that. Not to this extent which is actually a crime in Israel (&quot;rape by deception&quot;) but I know where he&#039;s coming from. He&#039;s miserable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Elaina, </p>
<p>I know and understand why he would lie. Being born a Muslim Arab (or any kind of non-Jewish Arab &#8211; or even being Jewish and looking Arab!) isn&#8217;t easy in Israel. I love my country, I am a Zionist, but I cannot pretend not to see the bigotry and bias against Arabs. I can understand it since it&#8217;s Arabs who bomb us, but many good Arabs suffer as a consequence.<br />
Being sexually involved with a Muslim may lead to honor killings even here in this otherwise civilized country. The bias Jews have against Arabs is endless; I have yet to see a dark to black person with no university background in a job better than security or police. Arabs, especially Muslims, face lots of rejection &#8211; on the job market, in real estate, but also in interpersonal relationships. Most of my Jewish friends, even the leftist ones, gasp in disbelief when I tell them my father knows I slept with a Muslim and laughs about it. &#8220;Mine would cleave my head off!&#8221; is a frequent response.</p>
<p>This wonderful young man almost died defending Israel. He knows all the Jewish blessings and prayers, and observes our holidays. He hates Islam more than anything. He works himself to death to support his family and he is sweet and caring and his Facebook friendlist is largely populated by homosexuals. He tries so hard, yet still doesn&#8217;t belong, he said so often and it really gets him down. Adopting a fake Jewish identity brings him closer to being part of this society. And yes, he is willing to convert for the right woman; he offered it to his previous partner who however, didn&#8217;t really want to take their relationship to such a serious level.<br />
I know how important belonging can be. I&#8217;m born in Israel but grew up abroad where I had many psychological problems, all starting with my not feeling like a part of anything and hence, not finding who I was. You&#8217;re floating through the world in a bubble you don&#8217;t want to be in. Everything is &#8220;You and them&#8221;, not &#8220;You among them&#8221;. But he has no native country to simply return and belong to. He&#8217;s already in it, yet still doesn&#8217;t belong. In his Arab village &#8211; Druze, Bedouins, Muslims &#8211; people beat him up for acting like neither of the 3. </p>
<p>So I think that while yes, he lies to deceive others into accepting him, he also uses this &#8220;pretend play&#8221; to be as close as possibly to what he truly wants. Been there, done that. Not to this extent which is actually a crime in Israel (&#8220;rape by deception&#8221;) but I know where he&#8217;s coming from. He&#8217;s miserable.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anna,

It is possible that this man could be your soulmate, that would be up to you to decide.  However, i would ask him to tell you why he deceived you so you could understand better what is going on with him.  This is empathy.  I would also ask him if he is willing to convert to Judaism.  He may have been born into another religion but he may have an inner desire to be Jewish instead.  Also I would try to find out if he is interested in marriage and raising a Jewish family.  

FYI, I met a Jewish girl in NY who had formerly been Christian and converted.  I also knew a blond American guy of Skandinavian descent who converted to Muslim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anna,</p>
<p>It is possible that this man could be your soulmate, that would be up to you to decide.  However, i would ask him to tell you why he deceived you so you could understand better what is going on with him.  This is empathy.  I would also ask him if he is willing to convert to Judaism.  He may have been born into another religion but he may have an inner desire to be Jewish instead.  Also I would try to find out if he is interested in marriage and raising a Jewish family.  </p>
<p>FYI, I met a Jewish girl in NY who had formerly been Christian and converted.  I also knew a blond American guy of Skandinavian descent who converted to Muslim.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elaina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi SHEINA,

I am the same age as you and I have the exact same problem.  I came across a 36 year old guy I once dated, who is now on Jdate saying he is 31 and he only wants to date women 21-34.  LOL!  Anyhow, I get the worst feeling when i think about lying about my age so I mostly get older guys contacting me too.

Anyhow, SHEINA, would you be kind enough to share with me what dating site you found where guys want to date someone their own age?

Thank you,
Elaina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi SHEINA,</p>
<p>I am the same age as you and I have the exact same problem.  I came across a 36 year old guy I once dated, who is now on Jdate saying he is 31 and he only wants to date women 21-34.  LOL!  Anyhow, I get the worst feeling when i think about lying about my age so I mostly get older guys contacting me too.</p>
<p>Anyhow, SHEINA, would you be kind enough to share with me what dating site you found where guys want to date someone their own age?</p>
<p>Thank you,<br />
Elaina</p>
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		<title>By: Jan English</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jan English</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 14:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely not! I will be 70 in November and am very proud of my age. If others don&#039;t like it, well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely not! I will be 70 in November and am very proud of my age. If others don&#8217;t like it, well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Judy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have lied in the past which was easy to get away with because I look at least 10 years younger than my chronological age, if not more.  However the date that I had based on the lie was very awkward for me since every time I recounted something that had happened to me in the past, I had to think about what age I had to be for that to have happened at that time.  Decided after that experience to always tell the truth.  However it does still bother me that so many men need to have the woman younger than themselves.  I can understand if a man still wishes to have children but when a man who is 64 years old can&#039;t contemplate dating a woman who is three years older than himself (as I am) it seems totally absurd to me - after all, what exactly is the difference between someone who is 63 and someone who is 67 - the answer is NONE!!

And I did recently hear a story about a woman from an acquaintance of mine who decided to lie about her age and on the first date told the guy the truth - he accepted her anyway and they are now happily married!  So it can work.

It is also true that if you meet someone at a party the issue of age does not come up right away because you are being evaluated on your whole &quot;package&quot; - personality, looks, interests and not chronological age.  That I think is the problem with dating web sites - the first filter is age and so many men have simply not re-evaluated from the mindset of high school/college when the tendency was to date someone either the same age or one/two years younger.

Sheina - would love to know what other web sites you have found where age is not such an issue?  And Anna, I do not think Corinne was being condescending but rather just helpful.

Would be most interested to hear responses from men as so far only women have responded to this question!  Thanks for reading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have lied in the past which was easy to get away with because I look at least 10 years younger than my chronological age, if not more.  However the date that I had based on the lie was very awkward for me since every time I recounted something that had happened to me in the past, I had to think about what age I had to be for that to have happened at that time.  Decided after that experience to always tell the truth.  However it does still bother me that so many men need to have the woman younger than themselves.  I can understand if a man still wishes to have children but when a man who is 64 years old can&#8217;t contemplate dating a woman who is three years older than himself (as I am) it seems totally absurd to me &#8211; after all, what exactly is the difference between someone who is 63 and someone who is 67 &#8211; the answer is NONE!!</p>
<p>And I did recently hear a story about a woman from an acquaintance of mine who decided to lie about her age and on the first date told the guy the truth &#8211; he accepted her anyway and they are now happily married!  So it can work.</p>
<p>It is also true that if you meet someone at a party the issue of age does not come up right away because you are being evaluated on your whole &#8220;package&#8221; &#8211; personality, looks, interests and not chronological age.  That I think is the problem with dating web sites &#8211; the first filter is age and so many men have simply not re-evaluated from the mindset of high school/college when the tendency was to date someone either the same age or one/two years younger.</p>
<p>Sheina &#8211; would love to know what other web sites you have found where age is not such an issue?  And Anna, I do not think Corinne was being condescending but rather just helpful.</p>
<p>Would be most interested to hear responses from men as so far only women have responded to this question!  Thanks for reading.</p>
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		<title>By: Earther</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earther</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 04:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I not only don&#039;t lie about my age, I volunteer the information.  If you look good and feel good, why not ignore how old you really are?.  Chronological age is merely an explanation for why I know as much as I do; it&#039;s proof of how long I&#039;ve lived on the planet. I&#039;ll turn 65 next month and don&#039;t apologize for it. I&#039;m one of those 64 year old women not interested in a man my age. I prefer the company of men ten years younger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I not only don&#8217;t lie about my age, I volunteer the information.  If you look good and feel good, why not ignore how old you really are?.  Chronological age is merely an explanation for why I know as much as I do; it&#8217;s proof of how long I&#8217;ve lived on the planet. I&#8217;ll turn 65 next month and don&#8217;t apologize for it. I&#8217;m one of those 64 year old women not interested in a man my age. I prefer the company of men ten years younger.</p>
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		<title>By: truthdroppings</title>
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		<dc:creator>truthdroppings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do what makes you feel good. There are no rules. If the person who you meet is only concerned with age, then they would be boring and you will see those qualities in his/her persona. Anyway, if its an unbalanced relationship, G-d will provide the answers and the resolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do what makes you feel good. There are no rules. If the person who you meet is only concerned with age, then they would be boring and you will see those qualities in his/her persona. Anyway, if its an unbalanced relationship, G-d will provide the answers and the resolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Hirsch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Hirsch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2012 02:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is my second round on JDate.  I began the first when I was just widowed and 66 years of age.  The hits never stopped.  Now that I have reached 70, I find that all the prospects in their 60&#039;s - 70&#039;s want significantly younger women in spite of their viitality and physical appearance.  This is definitely a dilema, as I am told that I do not look or act my age. Men seem to feel that they are ageless and immortal.  I am hardpressed to advise men that they more often than not, age must more rapidly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is my second round on JDate.  I began the first when I was just widowed and 66 years of age.  The hits never stopped.  Now that I have reached 70, I find that all the prospects in their 60&#8242;s &#8211; 70&#8242;s want significantly younger women in spite of their viitality and physical appearance.  This is definitely a dilema, as I am told that I do not look or act my age. Men seem to feel that they are ageless and immortal.  I am hardpressed to advise men that they more often than not, age must more rapidly.</p>
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